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    • CommentAuthorspilo
    • CommentTimeFeb 10th 2009
     
    Here is a compilation my wife put together for our family and friends on this issue:

    Do you or the Government know what's best for your children and grandchildren? I'm sorry that there is a lot of information here. I've tried to pare it down and just give links for you to read for more information. I need your help and time today. I'm asking you because I think you care about your family and would care enough to make a difference for it and other people's families. Please take the time to consider doing as the following link instructs after reading the rest of this email if the information motivates you as it has me.
    http://www.parentalrights.org/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC={E1213433-960D-4C17-BBD5-DDDA332C991B}

    In the email attached is an HSLDA article with important information you need to know about David Ogden, nominated by President Barrack Obama to the position of deputy attorney general of the United States, the second highest position in the Justice Department. (Also pasted at the very bottom in case the attachment doesn't come through.) The jist of it is that Ogden has a history of representing /Playboy/ and other purveyors of pornography in high-profile legal cases. He also challenged the legality of using filters on library computers to protect children from seeing pornography. Most importantly Ogden believes that the legal rules contained in the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child are already binding on the United States, even though this treaty has never been sent to the U.S. Senate for ratification.

    This is an article with more information about Ogden and a link to see who is on the Senate Judiciary Committee who will in the next few days confirm him or not.
    http://www.onenewsnow.com/Perspectives/Default.aspx?id=414212

    *Note:*/ It would be best to call the local offices of your senators in your state, as phone lines on Capitol Hill are tied up by voters concerned about pending economic incentive legislation. /
    http://capwiz.com/hslda/home/

    This link is an article about the University of Cincinnati promoting a week long event that showcased "that porn is not necessarily a bad thing." Today's current sex education at its best? I think not.
    http://www.onenewsnow.com/Education/Default.aspx?id=412040

    *The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (UNCRC) could now very soon be law in America. It could be before the Senate in 60 days.*
    http://www.parentalrights.org/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC={C483C563-EBDC-40F1-A33B-D2819B6230A6}
    • CommentAuthorspilo
    • CommentTimeFeb 10th 2009
     
    *Why this is not as good as it sounds to some.*
    http://www.parentalrights.org/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC={BE94C620-D288-462B-8B08-F8AF4C2D5925}

    *A look at other countries where UNCRC is law.*
    In Italy a mom in the U.S. Air Force in 2007 had her two girls removed from her home by Italian authorities even after those authorities had written that they had found "absolutely no case of child abuse." In 2002, Italy's highest appeals court ruled that parents are required by law to support their *adult* children until the children "find a job to their liking." In December 2007 the court ordered the parents of Friday Germano to rename him to Gregory. Under Italian law, officials at city hall are required to report all "unusual names" to the Italian government, which then has the authority to change them - even over the objection of the parents.
    http://www.parentalrights.org/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC={5825D757-33B9-41D0-B301-7868C3FA6954}

    Sweden in March of 2008 eliminated all exemptions for parents to keep their kids out of sex education classes - including parents with religious and philosophical differences. These sex ed. classes teach about homosexual behavior and start at age 4. In 1979 , Sweden passed a law banning parents from using "physical punishment or any other humiliating treatment" to train their children. According to the Nordic Committee on Human Rights, the Swedish courts have applied the ban broadly, criminalizing everything from slaps and spankings to "time outs" and sending children to their rooms.
    http://www.parentalrights.org/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC={217BB755-34DC-4150-8223-333EFEC962F5}

    In March of 2008 in Belgium two sets of parents were sentenced to five months in prison and fined $8,000 for failing to vaccinate their children against polio. Belgian parents can only opt-out of vaccinations if they can prove that their child might have a bad physical reaction to it. The following is an example of how Belgian government properly recognizes and protects children's rights. Since 2002, Belgium has allowed doctors to terminate the lives of infants under the age of 12 months if they feel the baby is somehow disabled or deficient, and is likely to suffer in life as a result. More than half of the Belgian babies who die before they are a year old are killed by deliberate medical intervention. In 16% of cases, parental consent was not even considered. In other words in some of these cases the baby was killed regardless of the parents wishes. The doctors and the government got to decide.
    http://www.parentalrights.org/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC={AE104423-1DC5-4E7C-B34A-765BD172BE56}

    *What has and is currently going on in courts in the United States:*

    In Washington State a 13 yr. old girl was involved in illegal drug activity and escalating sexual involvement. When her parents found out they acted to cut off the negative influences in their daughter's life by grounding her. When the girl complained to school counselors she was advised to notify Child Protective Services who then removed her from her home and placed her in foster care. When the parents challenged the social workers in court they lost. Even though the judge found that her parents had enforced reasonable rules in a proper manner, the state law nevertheless gave CPS the authority to split apart the family and take the daughter away. And this was back in the early 1980s.

    More recently a 13 year old boy in Washington State was removed from his parents after he complained to school counselors that his parents took him to church too often.

    A West Virginia mother had to share custody of her four year old daughter with two of the girl's babysitters as ruled by a local circuit judge and a family court judge. These sitters were referred to as "psychological co-parents" and at first full custody was awarded to them, only permitting the mother to visit her daughter four times a week at McDonalds. Eventually through appeals, in October 2007 the mother was granted full custody of her daughter by the West Virginia Supreme Court of Appeals.
    http://www.parentalrights.org/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC={81C1F260-4A9F-4013-8164-68A360E295A5}
    • CommentAuthorspilo
    • CommentTimeFeb 10th 2009
     
    In Chelsea, Maine 1998 two young girls were taken from their mother in August. The mother was never charged with abuse or neglect, nor with any crimes against her daughters. The girls were placed with a woman who was a former worker for the Department of Human Services. This woman had quit her job with DHS in part so she could foster the two girls, whom she hoped to ultimately adopt. The 5 year old girl had anger issues stemming from being taken from her mother by the state. On January 31, 2001 during an outburst, the former DHS worker took the girl to the basement of her home and duct-taped her to a high chair, allegedly to allow her to continue her rant in a secure setting. The duct tape however, covered the girls mouth and the child died of asphyxiation.
    The mother sued the District Court and lost and also sued to have the custody hearing for the second living daughter to be made public, but the state opposed it. As far as is known the younger daughter is still in the foster care system even though charges have still not been brought against her mother for any wrong-doing.
    http://www.parentalrights.org/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC={E663FC99-895B-4CC3-A20B-B6AC1D7C9E63}

    In 2006, in Lexington, Massachusetts two sets of parents tried to opt-out their 3 minor children from reading or studying of certain materials which they found offensive to their religious convictions. The Dept. of Education and the Lexington School District were introducing homosexual-themed literature to even the youngest elementary school children, which the plaintiffs feared would harm the moral training of their children in traditional Judeo-Christian values. The court found that "the Constitution does not compel the defendants.. to permit the Parkers and Wirthlins to exempt their children from teaching about homosexuality or same-sex marriage," because the Court was worried that it "could send the message that gays, lesbians, and children of same-sex parents (sic) are inferior and, therefore, have a damaging effect on those students." Currently the courts feel "Parents do have a fundamental right to raise their children," but those who enroll their children in public schools "abandon that responsibility to the state."
    http://www.parentalrights.org/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC={21351315-D12C-435B-B553-B1267BF782CB}

    In November of 2008 in California, a young Mom in a moment of mental instability caused by postpartum depression and mind-altering pesticide poisoning, took her 9 month old infant to a local country club and left him on the golf course. The mother waited from a hidden location to make sure the baby was discovered by a passerby before slipping away. Her husband when learning of all his wife had done immediately called the police, expecting to be able to pick up his son. Instead, the baby was handed over to the county's Child Services department and the father was given a court date. There were no allegations that either he or his wife had done anything criminal against their son. On the court date the judge ruled that the boy remain in state custody pending a later trial, as this was "in the best interest of the child." Since then the court has moved to terminate the father's parental rights. This would free them to adopt the boy to another family, receiving thousands of federal dollars along the way.
    http://www.parentalrights.org/index.asp?Type=B_BASIC&SEC={6BA8FA31-0CFC-415E-93B4-E8946739FA0D}

    *Here's the HSLDA article:*
    Home School Legal Defense Association urges all of its members to immediately telephone both U.S. senators from your state to oppose the nomination of David Ogden.

    The most important reason to oppose Ogden’s nomination is his belief that the rules found in the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child are already binding on the United States under the doctrines of international law.

    In the Supreme Court case of /Roper v. Simmons/, 543 U.S. 551 (2005), Ogden argued in a brief that the rules banning the juvenile death penalty contained in the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child were customary norms of international law “binding on all states.”

    For background information on this doctrine, see Michael Farris’ article, “A Deeper Understanding of the Threat of International Law” in the November/December 2007 /Home School Court Report/.
    • CommentAuthorspilo
    • CommentTimeFeb 10th 2009
     
    This means that Ogden believes that the legal rules contained in the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child are already binding on the United States, even though this treaty has never been sent to the U.S. Senate for ratification.

    Homeschoolers have long understood the dangers of this international treaty, which contains the core principle that the government may decide what it believes is best for each child without any proof of wrongdoing by the child’s parents. Ogden promoted the use of this UN treaty in the Supreme Court to reach the conclusion that America’s courts have the power to overrule state law, using international law as their guidepost for constitutional interpretation. Unfortunately, he was successful in doing so in the Roper case.

    It also means that Ogden is a proven advocate for the position that international law should be used to interpret the Constitution of the United States and bind the decisions of our elected officials.

    If this weren’t enough, Ogden has a history of representing /Playboy/ and other purveyors of pornography in high-profile legal cases. He also challenged the legality of using filters on library computers to protect children from seeing pornography. It would be hard to imagine how Ogden would faithfully enforce the nation's pornography laws if he is placed in this position at the Justice Department.

    The United States Senate needs to understand right now that the American public will not countenance the idea of the nation being led by people who believe that international law trumps American law.